RE: Bic 1970s style

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QUESTION: so i've maxed out the follow up questions? ha
well I was browsing on the site and reading other peoples' questions, it helped me in some aspects
it's a great site


anyways,  I thinik I'm getting the red Fanatic 295 board I showed you...
http://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/spo/676748034.html

I believe I can do well on it and I know someone that could help me out if I needed anything with it...
how does the condition and year look on it?


Also what kind of mast do I have to get for it? because I've been looking at this/these kinds   
http://cgi.ebay.com/windsurfing-mast-Neil-Pryde-X9-460cm-Ultra-mast-100_W0QQitem

but the board has a slit in it? so I still don't quite get how it works.
and how does the round boom attach?

Here's the one I had in mind..
http://cgi.ebay.com/Clamp-on-aluminum-windsurfing-slalom-BOOM-162-222cm_W0QQitem

also do these prices seem reasonable?

I think I will get that sail from Wicker Park, Il that I showed you he also has another older 7m sail thats only $25 for it....the good one is $40  sound reasonable?
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/spo/707604479.html

keep in mind that I am 5'11 166lbs.

Also, my dad is extremely skeptical about buying different equiptment from different people 1)because he's afraid they won't work together and 2)because he thinks that everyones out to screw you and the merchandise will be bad.

I've eased him on his #2 but I don't know what to say about him thinking that they won't fit together and work because I also partly feel that way.   any advice?

mostly I'm worried about the boom and mast being able to work together with the board.

and if you have any suggestions about anything I didn't mention feel free...

thanks again for everything you've been a big help
ha and if you could try to answer most/all my questions it'd be great....

Thanks again!


ANSWER: Hey Colin,

As best as I can tell the Fanatic board is in good condition. The ad mentions redoing the non-skid. This is not much of a problem if they did a good job with it. Some manufacturers just didn't make their decks very grippy so sometimes an aftermarket non-skid is applied. Sometimes they can be a little rough but it doesn't affect the performance of the board. With your size, you should be able advance to this board fairly quickly. The big thing would be to learn waterstarts as quickly as you can. Rope starting this  board will be a bit of a challenge but will hone your balancing skills quickly. Price seems reasonable but if you can talk him down a bit, all the better for you.

What you will need to be able to sail this board is; mast, mast base, boom, sail(s).

The two sails from the Wicker Park person should work fine for you on this board. You may want to keep your eye out for a 5.0-5.5 for higher winds but that can wait for now.

The boom is exactly what you would need for those two sails. Pretty good deal if you get it for the starting price. The harness lines and uphaul are bonus.

The mast will work for both sails but you will need to get a long mast base (I'll explain more). This mast looks to be in good condition but being 100% carbon, it is more prone to fatigue than a mast with less carbon. And with the # of bidders and the time left, the price is going to be way more than it is worth.

Here is what I would consider a better option for the money,
http://www.windance.com/default.asp?windance~useditemlist~MAST~Masts
Go to bottom of page and second from the bottom - Powerex 460 8041-07.
Price with shipping is $80 and a B rating is very good. I've purchased various used items from Windance and I've always felt that their ratings were about a half point low.

You will need a mast base and extention. You may be able to find them used but here is a link that will show you what they look like.
http://www.windance.com/Masts/Mast%20Bases/Mastbasses.html
The basic one in the top left will work fine for you. You will need an extention, at least a medium length. At the Windance site, look at windsurfing, masts and mast accesories, extentions to see what I'm talking about. You can shop around for a better price or maybe check your local shop if there is one near you. You may find something used but the base has to be the same type as I've shown you.
If you scroll down on that page you will see small brass nuts called Mistral sliders. One of these will slide into the slot on the top of the board. Then the base will screw into this nut.  While it still a little loose, you slide the base forward or back based on conditions and sail size. If you do get the Fanatic board, ask the seller to show you how the mast base connects to the board when you go to pick it up. Same with how the fin attaches.

Here is the best part and some reassurance for your dad. With the Fanatic board, all standard mast bases (like I've shown you) will fit. This mast track is world wide universal size and any and all boards with this mast track will take the base I've shown. The mast I've shown you at Windance (and the one you showed me on ebay) are the standard size mast. There are only TWO diameters of masts throughout the world. This standard size and skinny. You don't need to consider skinny masts at this point. The boom has a standard size clamp which means it will clamp onto ANY standard size mast. The outhaul end of the boom is adjustable so it will fit a variety of sail sizes, just as the seller mentions in his listing. So, ALL of this gear is compatible with each other.

Hope all this will help you with your buying decisions. Let me know if I can help further.
Keep on sailing,
Windlover

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QUESTION: All of your answer was great.  I purchased the boom and the board this weekend.  I payed for 3 fins from the guy with the board for only $40, seemed like a good deal for when I move to smaller sails.  He also threw in 2 mast bases for $20, one of them was the one I saw on the windance website you gave me.  I'm also set on the sails and I'm getting a harness for $10 from the same guy.   

Sadly, I missed out on the mast offer you showed me...the one for 50 and a total of 80 w/shipping?  http://www.windance.com/default.asp?windance~useditemlist~MAST~Masts

I looked at this one though.... how bout it?
http://www.windance.com/default.asp?windance~ShowUsedItem~8043-03


and any other suggestions?


Thanks!

ANSWER: Hey Colin,

Congrats on the new gear. Sounds like you are making out getting the little extras you need. The sailworks mast looks to be in good condition. As I mentioned before, they seem to rate things a bit low so it could very well be more of a B- than a C for actual condition. I think some of it is the age of items. But what I can tell from the picture it is in good condition. It should work well for the sails you are planning to get. Looks like all you will need is some wind and water so you can try that new gear out.

Best of luck with your new gear.
Keep on sailing,
Windlover

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QUESTION: So Windlover,

The mast has come in and I really have everything I need but I just went out to try fitting the mast base into the mast.....and of course it just kept slipping out.

It has the two metal collapsable style push pins but I dont know what they slide into.

Am I missing something here?
its a regular size Chinook base and a fiberspar mast.

Thanks a lot....almost on the water now
ha

Answer
Hey Colin,

I'm guessing that you have this;

http://www.windance.com/Masts/Mast%20Bases/Mastbasses.html

and you definitely need it to mount to the board. Now all you need is a mast extension. The extension allows you to use different size sails. You can adjust where the base of the mast sits to allow for different lengths of sail luffs. Here is what you need;

http://windance.com/Masts/Mast%20Extensions/Mast%20Extensions.html

You need a standard size, NOT SKINNY. In a Chinook, get at least a medium, in the Ezzy, a tall. Look at the sizes and get something similar in length to the above mentioned extentions. The extention will slide over your mast base and the pins will lock into the extention base. Be sure to get this type of extention as there are other styles that won't work with your base. The mast itself will slide onto the extention and the downhaul on the sail will hold everything in place. You can see the length adjustments on the extentions.

To get proper adjustment, look on the sail for LUFF size. For example, if it says 475 and you have a 460 mast, then you need to add ~15cm to the extension. Remember that all measurements are in cm (2.54cm in 1 inch)(divide x" by 2.54 to convert). So, set your extension adjuster ~15cm above the bottom hole.

Slide sail onto mast, extension into mast, downhaul sail. Pull down haul so that the downhaul grommet on the sail is about 2-3" from the pulleys on the extension. This will put you real close to the recommended setting and you can make minor adjustments  once you have the boom on and outhaul set. You may have to move your extension adjustment up or down one or two holes to get the sail rigged right. Once you have it set, count the number of holes to the ring pin and write this number on your sail with a permanent marker right next to luff setting. This way you can rig that sail the same each time.

This should get you on the water. Hope this helps.
Keep on sailing,
Windlover