Finally found grandpas old bamboo rod
Question
Howdy Mac. Grandpa's old bamboo rod finally surfaced today, after being missing 20 years. It's a Shakespeare 1300-9, 3pc hex bamboo, 9 ft. with 2 tip sections (one is thicker than the other and has a different size tip top). I'm an avid flyfisherman and tier, and I'm aware that an old Shakespeare is probably not worth much.....but I'm thinking to send this rod along to all the flyfishing relatives around the US, and have each nab a trout on it and collect the photos for an album of grandpa's rod. We do believe he got a 27-inch rainbow on it back in the day, and had it mounted.
What I'm interested in finding out is:
-what city was this rod made in? We're thinking Kalamazoo, MI since that's where we are all from (I'm in Colorado now) and did not Shakespeare start there?
-about what year was it made? My dad was born in 1933, but thinks his dad caught that big fish on the rod before he was born. But we are not sure, and would LOVE to find out.
It needs some corrosion removed from the guides. The stripping guide is missing, but you can see where the wraps were. All the wraps need varnish. One ferrule 'clicks' when I flex it.
I've built 2 graphite rods now, and have a great resource locally for restoring the rod (Bob Paul's fly shop in Loveland, CO). So I'm sure I can get help there on the restoration, and put on a new stripping guide myself. Would the stripping guide be agate? What should I order? I'm sure Bob will set me up with the right stuff for re-sealing the wraps and all, but I'm really curious what the original stripping guide might have looked like.
Also -- what line size? Since it's not worth thousands of bucks, we want to fish this sucker. By looking, I'm guessing a 5 wt line would do it, but am curious what to try, and puzzled by all the old line size codes. This has nothing on it to tell, other than the 1300-9 marking.
Thanks in advance!
DAN
Answer
Dan,
Got the pics.
Are the two tips of equal length , and do they both fit into the mid section?
History of Shakespeare Inc at
http://www.shakespeare-fishing.com/history/index.shtml
confirms your thinking that the company was in Kalamazoo, MI.
I have two books that support my opinions:
Antique & Collectable Fishing Rods: Identification & Value Guide Homel, Dan. 1997
Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook -Michael Sinclair
You can find them both at major libraries. ( Colorado prospector allows you to get books from any Colorado library), Sinclair has more history on Shakespeare.
The first model 1300 model named Favorite was made in 1936 green wraps with red tipping. I see red wraps and the lower tip in picture IMGP0226.jpg looks like a not match and been re done.The finish on the little wrap I can see is done like a graphite rod. (YUK!) The handle was a half wells and looks right. It was one of the lowest cost , $10 going up to $50.
They made it through the period around 1942, then the wraps were blue with orange tipping.
I lean towards the earlier date, but I would need to see it to pin it down further.
I am in Arvada , you ? I charge nothing for ids and estimates.
At the Shakespeare site they have a database of rods -
http://www.shakespeare-fishing.com/antiques/model-rods.shtml
2 1300s in their data base :
1300 SKP Fly-Spin-Casting set 1959
1300 SKP The Favorite 1928 fly
The 9 ft model 1300 fly rod has an extra tip valued at $20, 70 and $125 for poor, good, excellent condition respectively, according to Homel. I would guesstimate at $30 in it's present poor condition.
You spoke of corrosion on the guides, rust like that will tear up plastic coated fly lines. Also the guides are probably too small for modern lines to shoot properly.
I probably have ferrules - yours need to be reglued or replaced.
Good Luck mac
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