Winchester 6150 fly rod
Question
I inherited a Winchester 6150 split bamboo fly rod from my late father. Since the model number is low, my guess is that it may have been built or at least supervised by Edwards. Do you have any idea how I might establish the approximate year it was built? Most of the guides have been repaired in the field, and some of the intermediate wraps have been worn off due to many years of use.
I have three tips, one of which has been heavily repaired in the field.
Thanks,
Norm
Answer
Norm,
Some notes I have taken on Edwards / Winchester.
From the Internet, but I have reasons to support it:
The history of the Edwards family and their rods is often confusing because it involved some many different aspects at different times. In 1919 Eustis sold his young company to Winchester Repeating Arms, moved his operation to New Haven, Connecticut, and made rods exclusively for that company for five years; some years later he had a similar lease arrangement with Bristol Rod Co. Eustis had two sons, W. E. "Bill" and Leon, both of whom became involved in rod making prior to the formation of the E. W. Edwards %26 Sons Rod Co. shortly after the Winchester years. After Eustis died in 1931, his sons continued to make rods under the Bristol name. Eventually, discontent with the Bristol operation, Bill went out on his own and formed the W. E. Edwards %26 Son Rod Co. where he developed his new four-strip rod technology that became famous as the Edwards Quadrate; Gene also went out on his own and formed the Eugene Edwards Rod. Co., but he continued building the traditional 6-strip bamboo rods. Both of these companies also ceased operations during the 1950 era and were purchased by Clarence "Sam" Carlson.
From a very knowledgeable author regarding 60XX rods:
The Winchesters are all documented with a number of charts etc in my 2008 edition of "Playing With Fire: the Fly Rods of EW Edwards." The 6037 was made between 1922 and 1931. The top line were all 61xx rods; the second tier were 60xx rods. So this 6037 falls into that 2nd tier quality. It's definitely not an HI, and was made in the Winchester New Haven factory. BTW, the Winchester catalogs don't mention a 6042--there was a 6045--?
Playing With Fire: The Life and Fly Rods of E.W. Edwards Published by White Fish Press
Patrick C. Garner
This book is not at the local or Colorado library network. You might ask the publisher if Pat is taking questions - offer him pictures - he was asking for them in the past.
Early Winchester rods were advertised as being built under the direct supervision of E.W.Edwards and they are considered high quality rods with significant value today. These rods usually have a four digit number designation beginning with "6" stamped into the reel seat. Edwards ended his association with Winchester in 1924 by which time it appears rods were of lower quality and mass produced.
Winchester sold its rodmaking division to Horrocks-Ibbotson in 1935. H-I/Winchester rods are typical H-I rods and can be identified by the model name and the Winchester name written on the blank in white ink, with letters running toward the grip. This is a brief description of the excellent information found in Michael Sinclair's, Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook.
Sinclair shows the 6150 as made in the twenties. It cost $30, allot of money then during the depression . There were 2 classes, about 16 models of rods above that going for 35 and $50. My guess is 1919 to 1924.
Your rod is in fair condition at best. If restored probably would bring $1000.
I quote these books written by researchers so you know I am not making it all up, But I include my experience as well.
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