QuestionRich,
My dad and I found Winchester Fly rod in our basement and desiced to do some research. Well guess what we found. NOTHING! So I thought i would ask an Expert. We have no pics yet, but i would like to know if you know anything on the particular rod. It is a Winchester 6065. We have no idea about it. It has 2 main pieces and 3 tips and no reel. It is in an original cloth sac with 4 sections. If you know anything regarding it please tell us and if you could somehow give us an estimated price that would be great.
Thank you,
Matt Snyder
AnswerMatt,
You rod was made by the firearms manufacturer.
Early Winchester rods were advertised as being built under the direct supervision of E.W.Edwards and they are considered high quality rods with significant value today. These rods usually have a four digit number designation beginning with "6" stamped into the reel seat. Edwards ended his association with Winchester in 1924 by which time it appears rods were of lower quality and mass produced.
Winchester sold its rodmaking division to Horrocks-Ibbotson in 1935. H-I/Winchester rods are typical H-I rods and can be identified by the model name and the Winchester name written on the blank in white ink, with letters running toward the grip. This is a brief description of the excellent information found in Michael Sinclair's, Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook.
The Winchesters are all documented with a number of charts etc in Pat's 2008 edition of "Playing With Fire: the Fly Rods of EW Edwards." The top line were all 61xx rods; the second tier were 60xx rods. So this 6065 falls into that 2nd tier quality. It's definitely not an HI, and was made in the Winchester New Haven factory. It wasn't a Eustis-made rod but what Winchester described as "Edwards-supervised."
Playing With Fire: The Life and Fly Rods of E.W. Edwards
Patrick C. Garner
Do the rods have intermediate thread wraps every 1-3 inches ?
You could have a low resale value HI rod if built after 1935.
I need pictures to confirm (
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Price Book:
Antique %26 Collectable Fishing Rods: Identification %26 Value Guide Homel, Dan. 1997 (2nd edition 2000) add about 30% for age of book
Homel gives the 9 ft Winchester model 6085 c.1932 with an extra tip, 3 sections a value of $60, 140 and $275 for poor, good, excellent condition respectively. I would need that kind of detail to valuate your rod (please see the information criteria on my all experts web page, http://www.allexperts.com/ep/1634-36866/Fishing/Rich-Mac-McGaughey.htm), But the 6085 is close.
I quote these books written by researchers so you know I am not making it all up, But I include my experience as well.
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Luck,
Mac
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