scrum and tackles

Question
Hi, Well I am a 16 year old player on my schools rugby team, i have been playing for a year and rarely get hurt, but would like to fine tune my game a bit further. I play as the right prop on my team and would like to know several things.

Our hooker is a rookie and i know alot in the scrums can be just based on his ability to get the ball, but is their any kind of help i can do in a scrum to make things easier for our team to get the ball?

Their is also when it comes into contact, i find myself on the edge alot encountering their hard running players, hitting isnt a problem for me, but i find alot i only get one hand on them from a juke and am the only one to fall.

and lastly, Is their any tips you can provide for crashing, i have tried it before but and usually stopped by the first guy to contact. Yet i see other players can go through 2-3 lines of defense before going down. I am 6' tall and around 160-180 range so a midsized player compared to others in my league

Thanks a million

Answer
Hi Brandon, sorry for the delay I have been out sick.

I have pasted a couple of recent answers that seem to fit your needs.

I suggest reading over my old answers to see if there are more that can assist you. The links I recommend are essential; if possable print the PDF's provided on the links and make them your "bible".

The key thing to beating a loose head is to hit lower than him at the "engage". Your knees are bent and back straight. If you can study some professional rugby on TV, Utube or online to see a pro tighthead do his thing. Then get yourself filmed with a video camera during your training and games to get an idea of where your technique can be improved.

As you will read below it is essential that you bind to your hooker first and get a firm , tight grip. Your feet are shoulder width apart and in front of the hookers (typically). Your grip is taken by standing directly behind the hooker then reaching around and getting a firm grip if his jersey and shorts at the hip. Then step around your hooker to the right of him while maintaining your grip. Your shoulder should be completely "popped" not under the hookers in any way.

On the "crouch" call by the ref you need to squat deep, back straight eyes up, chin up. Your right arm is already reaching out for the loose head. As you engage dip your knees slightly to come up and under the loosehead while getting your right hand grip quickly at the loose haeds back. Get a firm grip of his jersy and yank hard to through him off balance a little.

On the crouch and engage you are aiming to "hit" the loose head's head with your right shoulder. You are not actually trying to cause injury or even hit his head. The loose head will duck his head under your shoulder. When you engage your right shoulder is used to grind down the loose head between your head, right shoulder and your right grip. You are aiming to push to his hips. To "fold him in half".

Make no mistake this is a hard, fast and violent process. Which is why I say to whatch a pro do it first. Get a lot of time on the scrum machine, even on your own. Never launch into the scrum, you should always be in control.

Subject:  Tighthead Prop
Question:  I am 15 years old, 6'1 and 264 pounds and fit. I play tighthead for my city team and I'm finding it a bit hard to get low during the U16 games as the prop the opposition are playing are only about 5'8- 5'9. How am i supposed to get as low as the shorter prop, i am very strong, fast, and powerful during the scrums. I just cant seem to get as low. And i was wondering, my coaches are saying i could play high level rugby for my country eventually. do you have any tips on how to get there and any tips on my propping situation

Answer:  Hi Jord, jeeze your are a monster mate! Good on you for working on technique and not resting on your size.

As you have found out the short guys are tough.

There is only one solution and that is strict technique, there is a link below (my favourite) that gives the exact technique to live by. Also I cannot stress enough to get someone to FILM/VIDEO your training and games to reveiw your technique and body position. Also to compare against professional players.

Get any footage of the All Blacks from the last 4 years and take NOTES about the prop Karl Hayman. He is hailed as the best prop in the world and his salary is the largest of any player in professional rugby at the moment, above try scoring backs to give you an idea.

You need to start on your flexability now, YOGA, seriously by the time you are 20 you should be able to do the splits. Deep squats are also good to work into your training just on your own at first add weights only after getting a qualified trainer involved.

The squats should simulate scrum technique: straight back tight stomach muscles, eyes up shoulders square.

At scrum time your sink needs to be deep.  You need to get your grip to the hooker tight and first the loose head binds after you, period. You have your feet square and are looking straight ahead, the loks and hooker work from your position, period. You need to be able to squat and "sit" deeply without your lock slipping up over your back so he needs to have a between the leg grip and his shoulder in the crease of your upper back thigh and your back side. His arm should bind around your thigh and his grip should be to your left hip and he should be TIGHT. You should be able to have your body position set up (see link) and the lock should be able to push a scrum machine back with you in that position and you only making small 5 inch steps in a controlled way.

Your torso HAS to be parrallel to the ground at first and on the call of the weight you need to explode through your thighs and hips forwards and slightly up.

Explode is the key word. You think you might be strong now but once you master that and do the work on the scrum machine and in the gym you  will be surprised at how far your strength will go.

You also need to make core work a habit. The jokes about props being fat are out of date, within reason you need to be as fit as a flanker and yet carry 20% more muscle for your height. Fat is dead weight and not useful. Eat healthy and well and in keeping with your training.

Look at the links below, read the questions I pasted in and go over my old questions on all topics to increase your over all game intellect.
Treat scrumming like an exact science and a skill.

Please feel free to ask more questions any time.

Srummaging:

My favorite:  http://www.coachingrugby.com/rugby/coaching/unitskills/scrum/buildingthescrum.ht...

http://www.usarugby.org/media/EDocs/scrum.pdf

http://www.texasyouthrugby.com/download/748/docs/Building_the_scrum.pdf


Questioner:   Scott Hartley
Category:  Rugby
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Subject:  Hooker help
Question:  Hi. Just a line to see if you can help. I play hooker and was wondering if you have any tips. I'm fine with line-outs and in the contact situation and my ball handling is good but I'm having problems in the scum,getting pressured too many times and finding hooking the ball difficult on my put-in.


Answer:  Hi Scott

I will put some links to help but in the scrum it sounds like you need to utilize your props more.

Start with the binding. You need to create more room for you to hook. Your tight head needs to bind first. He should stand directly behind you, reach around you and get a firm grip and then step out to your right and pop his shoulder. He should be square to the opposition but his hips, shoulders and feet need to all be ahead of you while having a tight bind. You might even have your hips on a slight angle to the left which is ok.

Your loose head then binds up , just the same method but to your right, only the loose heads should be slightly "behind" you. His feet behind your, hips with should well popped out and a tight grip. His feet need to be just a little wider than his shoulders to allow the ball through.

The loose head has the job of trying to push the opposite tighthead up and keep a bigger tunnel. On the engage the tight head needs to lead in and with all this you will have a better angle and more room to hook.

Try hooking with you right leg, if you aren't already.  

As for the dealing with loosing, well that is a tough one. Each person is different. You should go on the pub crawl though that is a team event not to be missed like the game itself.

Don't forget that each player on your team will have a moment that they personally feel lost the game. Like a kicker who misses the drop goal or last minute penalty - he didn't loose the team did as they are all responsible for putting themselves in that position.

From loss comes learning and personal growth. You are seeking to learn more about hooker and it will make you a better all around player. If you feel you left all your fight on the field then let it go mate. You did your honest best and at the end of the day only one team can win. Look to next season and look to improve it is all you can do. You have the hunger don't let it fade because you have had a set back,  set backs should make you come back harder.

TACKLING:

  Hi Stephen,

Below is a past answer to a similar question. If you focus on the line of the players shorts / jersey or the string of their shorts then size will not be an issue. If a player is really big the letting them go buy and tackling from behind and sliding down the legs will bring them down. A firm grasp asound the waiste then drop down with all your might while squeezing their legs together.

Your head should go to the side that is "out of the way". If the player is running at you going to the left you head should go to the right side and vice versa. If the guy is running directly at you it would be best to put you head on the side the guy hold the ball but really don't over think it on that angle. The big thing is to drive your should into the guys guy or lower sternum.

When tackling from the side the rule of thumb is "cheak to cheak" face to butt.

Here is a simple method for improving your tackle. When a player is moving towards you (or vice versa) do not look at their body as a whole, instead focus on the point of center between their hips. Often a coach will tell you to "eyeball" the "string of their shorts". This focus will allow your brain to only register the runner's center of gravity: the "mass" of their torso. No matter what a runner's arms, legs or head does the torso is usually stagnant.

Keep you feet active, stay on your toes either moving towards them or running in place. Close the space between you and the runner swiftly but stay in control. This is to limit the runner's options as much as possible. If you over commit to running into the tackle the player has a better chance of stepping you.

Focus on the "string of their pants" and drop your center of gravity to set up the hit. Aim the shoulder to that string.

so summarize:

1. keep the feet active "live"
2. focus on the "string of their pants"
3. drive the shoulder through the "string of their pants"
4. wrap the player up and drive with the legs in short steps.

Don't try to pick the player up, this is dangerous and will probably get you penalized. Drive hard with the shoulder and legs

Crash Ball.

1. run a line around a player. Pick one side to hit. If you can fake a player to go left or right they will be slightly off balance and you will be able to run through them better. It is not about the big contact or hit. The smart player gains ground and keeps possession buy running through "doorways not walls"

2. Lower your center of gravity as you come into contact. Drop the shoulder.

3. Keep your feet, pump the legs in short aggressive bursts to keep traction, power and stability.

4. Keep your options open, if possible draw the player and look to off load to a team mate. Once the pass is made get into a support position to receive a pass as well.

Let me know if you have any more questions on this.